*A recorded debate between Venerationist and Nousporist scholars. Most of it is illegible, leaving only fragments of dialogue...*
Venerationist Scholar: ...We all recall that state that dared touch the sky. But what were they really? Just blind masses manipulated by ambitious politicians who dared challenge the Titans' authority.
Venerationist Scholar: A completely meaningless attempt, an absolute mistake.
Nousporist Scholar: Hmph, you Venerationists have bowed to the Titans for so long, you've forgotten a scholar's true purpose?
Nousporist Scholar: "Making a mistake does not mean the act was meaningless."
Nousporist Scholar: Even those students new to the Grove understand this from basic logic lessons.
Nousporist Scholar: An entire city-state reduced to ashes proved the skyships' construction was a mistake. To me, that's precisely the meaning they achieved through sacrifice.
Venerationist Scholar: Am I hearing this right? Such a statement... are you converting to Venerationism?
Nousporist Scholar: No, I'm simply examining the matter from another perspective.